please tell everyone that I would not be able to continue on with the site (well have not been able to update for sometime anyway). I have been busy with my college life. Studies, studies, studies. Life in college is hectic. My apologies to all who have been visiting my site that I cannot maintain it for the time being... for that reason, I plan to put down my site for the time being....

While it is a cool thing to go see if a game going on at Pale Serve. Part of me is glad that it has been down. You see, Kali has had a few more visiters since there is not the convienient Pale serve I.P. This means that people have to go to Kali and actualy cordinate a game (chat, debate, and agree on a game). I am just as guilty of saying screw Kali today and going to your place. I guess it is a love-hate thing.

-Don't squat with your spurs on.
-Don't interfere with something that ain't botherin' you none.
-Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
-The easiest way to eat crow is while it's still warm. The colder it gets, the harder it is to swaller.
-If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.
-If it don't seem like it's worth the effort, it probably ain't.
-It don't take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep.
-The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with watches you shave his face in the mirror every morning.
-Never ask a barber if you need a haircut.
-If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.
-Don't worry about bitin' off more'n you can chew; your mouth is probably a whole lot bigger'n you think.
-Always drink upstream from the herd.
-Generally, you ain't learnin' nothing when your mouth's a-jawin'.
-Tellin' a man to git lost and makin' him do it are two entirely different propositions.
-If you're ridin' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there with ya.
-Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.
-When you give a personal lesson in meanness to a critter or to a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson.
-When you're throwin' your weight around, be ready to have it thrown around by somebody else.
-Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back.
-Always take a good look at what you're about to eat. It's not so important to know what it is, but it's sure crucial to know what it was.
-The quickest way to double your money is to fold it over and put it back into your pocket.
-Never miss a good chance to shut up.

    I dont mean to be the odd ball of the outlaws community but I dont think that we should bother with the petition. Go ahead, it dont bother me but I think that we are doing just fine and I dont see how Outlaws can get much better. And with a little use of our imagination we have been able to edit items and nwx files to make our own characters and our own weapons. So with a little itm editing and a little nwx editing we can pretty much do our own sequel.
    But I do think LucasArts should come up with some updates. Like make it more 3DFX compatible so we dont have as many 3DFX errors or make their own level editor that can detect all problems and make it easier to make maps than Lawmaker. And another useful thing would be to let you change your character in the game so you dont have to leave and come back and make it display a message like "SO&SO Changed to Spittin' Jack." They could also do a deal like Blizzard Entertainment does with StarCraft and Diablo, have Battle.net. Would be alot better than zone. Now you probably think im crazy. Oh and of course more historical missions and stuff. I just thought i might say something about it.

	OBH: Outlaws Bounty Hunters Nice color management but nothin' here yet other than a text list of the OBH gang members and an uncredited link to my ftp server. ;P
	Pretenders TJG Page Even though he called me "Placeface" in a news post and the site features lots of typos and a number of not-so-original pages, the news, updated maps and map reviews make this a pretty good place to check out from time to time—the fairly fast and legible design is a plus as well.
	Toxic's Feed Store Handy design, map play tips and reviews and weapon and character info sections provide pretty good bang for yer browsing buck.

"Where are ya Sheriff." Those are familiar words to fans of this game, which is one of the most underrated of all-time. Widely criticized for its behind-the-times technology that was based on the two-year old Dark Forces, those people missed the big picture—the gameplay rocked. It still has the best setting, excellent cut scenes and an unmatched sense of a style. Its multiplayer is also a high-point, with perfectly designed maps and realistic damage.

	Magz's Outlaws Post Scary layout but some handy stuff with taunts, cheats and Magz's analysis of the weapons as well as keyboard config tips and so forth. Also home to the "Outlaws Mail Service" where you can keep in touch with yer favorite gunslingers with the help of a pretty slick web-based e-mail service.
	Violent Outcasts Nice fast glow-in-the-dark design makes this an easy site to read. Not a whole lot here as yet but a list of the Vo members, mini-bio of the gang and a download list of their favorite levels makes it worth a small trip.

The Gunners Not much here on Outlaws specifically, but a pretty thorough history of the posse for those who are interested.

Outlaws Sometimes you CAN tell a site by its title. Tons of Java junk and animations make this a real pain to load, and the cluttered layout of the first page doesn't help. A few links, taunts and cheats as well as N64 stuff (???) is all you'll find here.

Outlaws Message Board A simple, elegant message board interface for all Outlaws players to use. Thanks to the generosity of the OGB crew, any Outlaws site is free to link to this message board so that players will have a central meeting place for ongoing messages, debates and whatnot. Great idea for this already popular watering hole.

CBO - Cold Blooded Outlaws A bit uneven and bandwidth-heavy in spots, but the large amount of resources here and the frequent updates make this CBO site worth a visit.

Longstreet's ANV Outlaws Page Small site mostly with a listing of "Army of Northern Virginia" posse members. The irrepressibly peppy old Dixie polka music on the first page will have you smashing your speakers to tiny little pieces after a few minutes but hey there's a funny picture of a rotund Confederate general on there too, can't be all bad.

The Wire Blackthorn's periodic Zone newsletter, a compilation of reader/player submitted emails on various topics of interest to those folks who play Outlaws in the Zone. A fun read, informative, attractive and loads lightning fast with Blackthorn's usual obsessive attention to fonts and formatting. Don't miss an issue!

	TGC - The Gentlemen's Club Heavy use of style sheet formatting in this highbrow posse site leaves my Netscape 4 out in the cold—CSS positioning is jus' fer lazy people who can't make imagemaps if ya ask me. :P Anyhow it's set up like a virtual tour of a swank British club house, or something. Non-IE 4+ browsers need not apply.
	Mista's Place Weekly news, info on Mista's NBK posse, "Top 15" list of the deadliest Outlaws, links, etc. Easy to read in a fast, Frontpage-generic layout.

{TheBigThug} Jay is watching...don't worry
* TheBigThug doesn't have to ignore Nailz! anymore :)
{TheBigThug} (I see all so my reply might be to someone on another server...sorry)
{TheBigThug} oh come on...I talk allthe time! Just not when you're here :)
* TheBigThug is testing new code...anti-ekt code...and don't ask what ekt is
{TheBigThug} Mix emails me too much...
{TheBigThug} You would have to see this screen...scrolling about 100 lines per second from 100 different servers...I cannot read anything
{TheBigThug} I have etk already...and tested it already
{TheBigThug} If you see anyone post a WX server let me know
* TheBigThug is pissed as the extra work he's doing today and wants to go home
{TheBigThug} Do you know we get at least one complaint every day from people thinking I stalk them? ;-)
* TheBigThug holds the record for most complaints filed against him
* TheBigThug has to go now...it's been fun...later all...thx for using Kali...and not abusing
* TheBigThug is away (taking notes).

    Several times now I have read people claim that the chief cause of 3dfx errors was the use of subsectors, but this didn't quite ring true to me. After all, the main game levels use subsectors all the time, mainly for doors, and they don't cause any such errors.... In my experience, such errors occur mainly when you have two unadjoined walls/sectors too close together. As long as you have at least .05 between them, things usually work fine. Any closer than that, though, and trouble usually starts. I noticed this when you pointed out the 3dfx errors for me in Breakout; I don't have a 3dfx card, but the errors you pointed out also showed up, albeit less noticeably, even in Direct Draw.
    Part of the problem also seems to be that people don't understand how the Consistency Checker works in Lawmaker. A "lie detector" does not actually work by detecting lies, but by registering changes in heartbeat, respiration, blood pressure, etc., when certain questions are asked or certain answers are given; thus, it only indicates the possibility of a lie, and not an actual lie, etc. Well, the checker in Lawmaker sometimes finds "errors" in the main game levels, even though you'd never be able to spot them in play, and sometimes it says there are no errors, even when the level clearly has some that make it look all wrong. People have got to realize that they need to use their COMMON SENSE, and that the checker is tool that only works about 90-95% of the time....

1) If 2 sectors are overlapping, (I.e. , if you have a hole in the ground, and a box beside the hole, make sure that no part of the box s touching the hole sector, or that will cause an error!)
2) BIG AREAS. If you have a REALLY big, open area, then you will find that LARGE errors will occur,and not only 3DFX, either! Take my OLD, OLD map; "FortMatt" for example". It used to be twice that size, but no matter where I walked, there was a glitch on the outer wall, or to my left.
3) RIVERS. Don't forget those rivers. If you want to make a river that is too shallow to swim in, make it REALLY shallow. In Pillage, I made it the depth of one, (at first), but if you died in it, you couldn't go all the way under water, and yet, you were not above it. (you would be in between the 2)... SO, there would be a hall of mirrors, for all the 3DFX guyz. I made it deeper, but I suppose I could have made it less than 1.
4) There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. And by good thing, I mean Flags. every one loves 'em. They make the sky 3d, make doors open. And make secret areas. But, if you put too many in your map, you will get some serious glitches! And I don't just mean the hall of mirrors effect. Sometimes the TEXTURES actually change on there own! (and for 3DFX card owners... yup, glitches).

	The MOB Outlaws Posse Darkly stylish posse site by Danger, solid layout with a good deal of info on the MOB posse and a couple other spicy morsels.
	The Warrior Ground An almost totally incomplete site but the handsome blue-on-black design, nearly listenable MIDI background music, huge link list and extensive menu seem promising.

	Outlaws Lawmakers Hideout Helpful site by Sleepy with Lawmaker tips from the pros, handy Lawmaker stuff to download, a nice page featuring Sleepy's own maps, map reviews and well some cartoons thrown in for the heck of it. A little heavy on pictures and the layout is a bit inconsistent, but good info makes it worth a visit.
	Baby's Crib Stylish individual site by BadBaby features a lot of Java stuff, some of which is put to interesting use. Layout is a bit rough after the opening but you'll find Outlaws news, links, a photo gallery and of course lots of personal touches from BadBaby herself.

I finally figured out what it was after many times uninstalling, upgrading, reinstalling etc... There was one corrupt inf file in my which would not get erased or written over when I would uninstall and reinstall the drivers. I owe that one to Avenger. He had the same problem... I have heard that this same problem has baffled many people that play Outlaws. The trick is to get rid of every single file the pertains to your monster2 and DX6 driver files. I believe that installing EverQuest somehow screwed me up. Also, You always have to reinstall the Monster Drivers after you install or upgrade Direct X.

1. 95% of 3dfx errors occur becuase of sub sectors, the solution is never use sub sectors. With the possible exception of moving doors everything can be made without subsectors.
2. The only other one I can think of is where you have building where the inside is bigger than the outside. For example if you type the wrong value for the ceiling height. Can't really think how non 3dfx guys can avoid this one, just be careful I guess. I was working on level based on Dr Who's TARDIS at the time I got my 3d card only to discover this problem.
3. Never use sub sectors.
4. Some errors which you can actually see under software mod become very visible under 3dfx. So if you see a minor bug in your map dont ignore it as they may not be so minor under 3dfx.
5. Never use sub sectors.

	G4H - Guns 4 Hire Unusual concept--a site dedicated to a posse that isn't really around anymore. But webmaster Trooper is still wearin' th' letters and has put up a slick memorial page to his old gang. Some good info on the old members, and a stylish layout (doesn't work too well in my old Netscape 3, but new browsers won't have a problem).
	Zeurdoos' Outlaws Archive One-pager with some selected maps to download and favorite Outlaws links. Loads fast, easy to read.

1. It has to run when I try loading it in Outlaws.
2. It better not have any duplicate files in the .zip.
3. It cannot make unauthorized use of other people's stuff and must note sources of legitimate material in the text file.
4. It has to be a sincere effort on your part.

Outlaws Bandwidth Usage DirectPlay vs Winsock (lower is better) K b p s       1.9 1.7               2.35 1.85         shootin' explodin'

110mHz Banshee vs 170mHz Voodoo3 Outlaws video frames per second 512 x 384 A 60 61 B 120 192 C 189 243   640 x 480 A 60 61 B 83 135 C 129 204   800 x 600 A 60 60 B 53 89 C 86 137